There are many kinds of WinPE. backbox-7-desktop-amd64.iso - 2.47 GB, emmabuntus-de3-amd64-10.3-1.01.iso - 3.37 GB, pentoo-full-amd64-hardened-2019.2.iso - 4 GB then there is no point in implementing a USB-based Secure Boot loader. @ventoy I have tested on laptop Lenovo Ideapad Z570 and Memtest86-4.3.7.iso and ipxe.iso gived same error but with additional information: netboot.xyz-efi.iso (v2.0.17), manjaro-gnome-20.0.3-200606-linux56.iso, Windows10_PLx64_2004.iso worked fine. Because if I know you ever used Ventoy in a Secure Boot enabled environment, I can now run any malicious payload I want at the UEFI level, on your computer. And, for any of this to work, Ventoy would still need to independently solve the problem of allowing unsigned bootloaders pass through when Secure Boot is enabled @ventoy The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: Please test this ISO file with VirtualMachine(e.g. If a user whitelists Ventoy using MokManager, it's because they want the Ventoy bootloader to run in a Secure Boot environment and want it to only chain load boot loaders that meet the Secure Boot requirements. Hi MFlisar , if you want use that now with HBCD you must extract the iso but the ventoy.dat on the root of the iso recreate the iso with example: ntlite oder oder tools and than you are able to boot from. I didn't try install using it though. It's the BIOS that decides the boot mode not Ventoy. Hope it would helps, @ventoy I still have this error on z580 with ventoy 1.0.16. Getting the same error with Arch Linux. Please refer github issue/1975, x86 Legacy BIOS, IA32 UEFI, x86_64 UEFI, ARM64 UEFI and MIPS64EL UEFI. For Hiren's BootCD HBCD_PE_x64.iso has been tested in UEFI mode. The main issue is that users should at least get some warning that a bootloader failed SB validation when SB is enabled, instead of just letting everything go through. However, per point 12 of the link I posted above, requirements for becoming a SHIM provider are a lot more stringent than for just getting a bootloader signed by Microsoft, though I'm kind of hoping that storing EV credentials on a FIPS 140-2 security key such as a Yubico might be enough to meet them. If I wasn't aware that Ventoy uses SUISBD, I would be confused just as you by its Secure Boot "support" and lack of information about its consequences. This means current is ARM64 UEFI mode. Maybe I can provide 2 options for the user in the install program or by plugin. What exactly is the problem? Did you test using real system and UEFI64 boot? I assume that file-roller is not preserving boot parameters, use another iso creation tool. If anyone has Secure Boot enabled, there should be no scenario where an unsigned bootloader gets executed without at least a big red warning, even if the user indicated that they were okay with that.
SecureBoot - Debian Wiki These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. The MX21_February_x64.iso seems OK in VirtualBox for me. Won't it be annoying? i was test in VMWare 16 for rufus, winsetupusb, yumiits okay, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_mYChRFanLEdyttDvT-cn6zH0o6KX7Th/view?usp=sharing. As Ventoy itself is not signed with Microsoft key. That's an improvement, I guess? Does the iso boot from a VM as a virtual DVD? It should be the default of Ventoy, which is the point of this issue. If someone uses Ventoy with Secure Boot, then Ventoy should not green light UEFI bootloaders that don't comply with Secure Boot. Is there any solution for this? But . Win10UEFI+GPTWin10UEFIWin7 PS: It works fine with original ventoy release (use UEFIinSecureBoot) when Secure boot is enabled. Copyright Windows Report 2023. Without complex workarounds, XP does not support being installed from USB. TinyCorePure64-13.1.iso does UEFI64 boot OK I test it in a VirtualMachine (VMWare with secure boot enabled). Again, I think it is very fair to say that, if you use use Ventoy on a Secure Boot enabled system, and you went through Ventoy Secure Boot enrolment, they you expect that ISOs that aren't Secure Boot compliant will be reported, as they would with other means of using them on that system. its okay. Most likely it was caused by the lack of USB 3.0 driver in the ISO. The program can be used to created bootable USB media from a variety of image formats, including ISO, WIM, IMG and VHD. Newbie. 8 Mb. @pbatard Sorry, I should have explained my position clearer - I fully agree that the Secure Boot bypass Ventoy uses is not secure, and I'm not using Ventoy exactly because of it. Many thanks! I'll try looking into the changelog on the deb package and see if The USB partition shows very slow after install Ventoy. This was not considered Secure Boot violation as ExitBootServices() was called prior to booting the kernel. Have a question about this project? But Ventoy currently does. Go to This PC in the File Explorer, then open the drive where you installed Ventoy. Users enabled Secure Boot to be warned if a boot loader fails Secure Boot validation, regardless of where that bootloader is executed from. fails to find system in /slax, 'Hello System' os can boot successfully with bootx64.efi's machine and show desktop. It was actually quite the struggle to get to that stage (expensive too!) Questions about Grub, UEFI,the liveCD and the installer. They boot from Ventoy just fine. Besides, I'm considering that: maybe that's changed, or perhaps if there's a setting somewhere to Ventoy supports ISO, WIM, IMG, VHD(x), EFI files using an exFAT filesystem. Forum rules Before you post please read how to get help. @pbatard, if that's what what your concern, that could be easily fixed by deleting grubia32.efi and grubx64.efi in /EFI/BOOT, and renaming grubia32_real.efi grubia32.efi, grubx64_real.efi grubx64.efi. Already on GitHub? Shim itself is signed with Microsoft key. Ventoy is a free and open-source tool used to create bootable USB disks. Ventoy2Disk.exe always failed to install ? Any way to disable UEFI booting capability from Ventoy and only leave legacy? en_windows_10_business_editions_version_1909_updated_april_2020_x64_dvd_aa945e0d.iso | 5 GB, en_windows_10_business_editions_version_2004_x64_dvd_d06ef8c5.iso | 5 GB The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: Please give the exact iso file name. Yet, that is technically what Ventoy does if you enrol it for Secure Boot, as it makes it look like any bootloader, that wasn't signed by Microsoft, was signed by Microsoft. Currently, on x64 systems, Ventoy is able to run when Secure Boot is enabled, through the use of MokManager to enroll the certificate with which Ventoy's EFI executable is signed. las particiones seran gpt, modo bios If anyone has an issue - please state full and accurate details. evrything works fine with legacy mode. Hi, HDClone 9.0.11 ISO is stating on UEFI succesfully but on Legacy after choose "s" or "x64" to start hdclone it open's a black windows in front of the Ventoy Menu and noting happens more. screenshots if possible 2.
Solved: UEFI boot cannot load Windows 10 image - Dell Ventoy doesn't load the kernel directly inside the ISO file(e.g. I have the same error with EndeavorOS_Atlantis_neo_21_5.iso using ventoy 1.0.70. the EndeavorOS iso boots with no issues when on it's on usb, but not through ventoy. Do I need a custom shim protocol? Currently when boot the ISO file failed as a Virtual CDROM, Ventoy will try to parse the grub configuration file inside the ISO file and try to boot it direclty with. Is it valid for Ventoy to be able to run user scripts, inject user files into Linux/Windows ram disks, change .cfg files in 'secure' ISOs, etc. Google for how to make an iso uefi bootable for more info. Thnx again. If you have a faulty USB stick, then youre likely to encounter booting issues. Vmware) with UEFI mode and to confirm that the ISO file does support UEFI mode. So it is impossible to get these ISOs to work with ventoy without enabling legacy support in the bios settings? Tested Distros (Updating) I don't have a IA32 hardware device, so I normally test it in VMware. By the way, since I do want to bring that message home for people who might be tempted to place a bit too much trust in TPMs, disk encryption and Secure Boot, what the NSA would most likely do, if they wanted to access your encrypted disk data on an x86 PC, is issue a secret executive order to Intel or AMD, to design special version of the CPU they need, where the serial can be altered programmatically (so that they can clone the serial from the original CPU in case the TPM checks it) and that includes additional logic and EPROM to detect and store the critical data (such as disk decryption keys) when accessed. Nierewa Junior Member. 5. extservice
I didn't add an efi boot file - it already existed; I only referenced Any progress towards proper secure boot support without using mokmanager? The worst part is, at the NSA level, this is peanuts to implement, and it certainly doesn't require teams of coders or mathematicians trying to figure out a flaw or vulnerability. Just found that MEMZ.iso from https://mega.nz/folder/TI8ECBKY#i89YUsA0rCJp9kTClz3VlA works, file: Windows XP.ver.SP3.English same here on ThinkPad x13 as for @rderooy Option 2 will be the default option. I would assert that, when Secure Boot is enabled, every single time an unsigned bootloader is loaded, a warning message should be displayed. It's what Secure Boot is designed to do on account of being a trust chain mechanism that, when enabled, MUST alert if trust is broken. GRUB mode fixed it! edited edited edited edited Sign up for free . Ventoy supports both BIOS Legacy and UEFI, however, some ISO files do not support UEFI mode. You can press left or right arrow keys to scroll the menu. Please follow the guid bellow. This filesystem offers better compatibility with Window OS, macOS, and Linux. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1401532. Sign in Open Rufus and select the USB flash drive under "Device" and select Extended Windows 11 Installation under Image option. This means current is MIPS64EL UEFI mode. and leave it up to the user. The injection is just like that I extract the ubuntu.iso and change/add some script and create an new ISO file. . Sign in
Will there be any? There are many kinds of WinPE. FreeNAS-11.3-U2.1.iso (FreeBSD based) tested using ventoy-1.0.08 hung during boot in both bios and uefi at the following error; da1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present And of course, by the same logic, anything unsigned should not boot when Secure Boot is active. So if the ISO doesn't support UEFI mode itself, the boot will fail. Any suggestions, bugs? Ubuntu has shim which load only Ubuntu, etc. Ventoy is open-source software that allows users to create ISO, WIM, IMG, VHS(x), and EFI files onto a bootable USB drive. Another issue about Porteus and Aporteus : if we copy ISO via dd or other tools or copy ISO contents to EFI partition of USB work perfectly in UEFI.
ventoy maybe the image does not support x64 uefi @BxOxSxS Please test these ISO files in Virtual Machine (e.g. Feedback is welcome If your tested hardware or image file is not listed here, please tell me and I will be glad to add it to the table here. all give ERROR on my PC I don't know why. And I will posit that if someone sees it differently, or tries to justify the current behaviour of Ventoy, of letting any untrusted bootloaders pass through when Secure Boot is enabled, they don't understand trust chains, whereas this is pretty much the base of any computer security these days. The point is that if a user whitelists Ventoy using MokManager, they are responsible for anything that they then subsequently run using Ventoy. I can 3 options and option 3 is the default. Exactly. You are receiving this because you commented. When user check the Secure boot support option then only run .efi file with valid signature is select. @steve6375 I've mounted that partition and deleted EFI folder but it's still recognized as EFI, both in Windows Disk Management and the BIOS, just doesn't boot anymore. Would disabling Secure Boot in Ventoy help? The thing is, the Windows injection that Ventoy usse can be applied to an extracted ISO (i.e. I guess this is a classic error 45, huh? Oooh, ok, I read up a bit on how PCR registers work during boot, and now it makes much more sense. Hiren does not have this so the tools will not work. UEFi64? Now there's no need to format the disk again and again or to extract anything-- with Ventoy simply copy the ISO file to the USB drive and boot it. I don't remember exactly but it said something like it requires to install from an Installation media after the iso booted. Else I would have disabled Secure Boot altogether, since the end result it the same. la imagen iso,bin, etc debe ser de 64 bits sino no la reconoce Ventoy is supporting almost all of Arch-based Distros well. It's a pain in the ass to do yes, but I wouldn't qualify it as very hard. Copy the efisys.bin from C: > Windows > Boot > DVD > EFI > en-US to your desktop 3. @ventoy, I've tested it only in qemu and it worked fine. WinPE10_8_Sergei_Strelec_x86_x64_2019.12.28_English.iso BOOT but Custom launcher cannot open custom path and unable access to special apps. That's not at all how I see it (and from what I read above also not @ventoy sees it). All other distros can not be booted. 1. I really fail to fathom how people here are disputing that if someone agrees to enroll Ventoy in a Secure Boot environment, it only means that they agree to trust the Ventoy application, and not that they grant it the right to just run whatever bootloader anybody will now be able to throw at their computer through Ventoy (which may very well be a malicious bootloader ran by someone who is not the owner of that computer but who knows or hopes that the user enrolled Ventoy). I've hacked-up PreLoader once again and managed to cleanly chainload Ubuntu ISO with Secure Boot enabled. I'll test it on a real hardware a bit later. So maybe Ventoy also need a shim as fedora/ubuntu does. memz.mp4. Which means that, if you have a TPM chip, then it certainly makes little sense to want to use its features with Secure Boot disabled. to your account. I downloaded filename Win10_21H2_BrazilianPortuguese_x64.iso Now, that one can currently break the trust chain somewhere down the line, by inserting a malicious program at the first level where the trust stops being validated, which, incidentally, as a method (since I am NOT calling Ventoy malicious here) is very similar to what Ventoy is doing for Windows boot, is irrelevant to the matter, because one can very much conceive an OS that is being secured all the way (and, once again, if Microsoft were to start doing just that, then that would most likely mark the end of being able to use Ventoy with Windows ISOs since it would no longer be able to inject an executable that isn't signed by Microsoft as part of the boot process) and that validates the signature of every single binary it runs along the way which means that the trust chain needs to start somewhere and (as far as user providable binaries are concerned) that trust chain starts with Secure Boot. MediCAT I tested it but trying to boot it will fail with an I/O error. The error sits 45 cm away from the screen, haha. @steve6375 For these who select to bypass secure boot. All the userspace applications don't need to be signed. if this issue was addressed), it could probably be Secure Boot signed, in the same manner as UEFI:NTFS was itself Secure Boot signed. Users may run into issues with Ventoy not working because of corrupt ISO files, which will create problems when booting an image file. Ventoy has added experimental support for IA32 UEFI since v1.0.30. When ventoy detects this file, it will not search the directory and all the subdirectories for iso files. may tanong po ulit ako yung pc ko po " no bootfile found for uefi image does not support x64 uefi" i am using ventoy galing po sa linux ko, gusto ko po isang laptop ko gawin naman windows, ganyan po lagi naka ilang ulit na po ako, laptop ko po kasi ayaw na bumalik sa windows mula nung ginawa ko syang linux, nagtampo siguro kaya gusto ko na po ibalik sa windows salamat po sa makakasagot at sa . The user could choose to run a Microsoft Windows Install ISO downloaded from the MS servers and Ventoy could inject a malicious file into it as it boots. If Ventoy was intended to be used from an internal hard disk, I would agree with you, but Ventoy is a USB-based multiboot solution and therefore the user must have physical access to the system, so it is the users responsibility to be careful about what he inserts into that USB port. WinPE10_8_Sergei_Strelec_x86_x64_2019.12.28_English.iso BOOT but Custom launcher cannot open custom path and unable access to special apps.
etc. There are many other applications that can create bootable disks but Ventoy comes with its sets of features.
How to Fix No bootfile found for UEFI on a Laptop or Desktop PC - YouTube unsigned kernel still can not be booted. And it's possible that the UEFI specs went as far as specifying that specific aspects of the platform security, such as disk encryption through TPM, should only be available if Secure Boot is enabled. This could be due to corrupt files or their PC being unable to support secure boot. 1.0.80 actually prompts you every time, so that's how I found it. That's actually the whole reason shims exist, because Microsoft forbade Linux people to get their most common UEFI boot manager signed for Secure Boot, so the Linux community was forced into creating a separate non GPLv3 boot loader that loads GRUB, and that can be signed for Secure Boot. In a real use case, when you have several Linux distros (not all of which have Secure Boot support), several unsigned UEFI utilities, it's just easier to temporary disable Secure Boot with SUISBD method. Menu Option-->Secure Boot Support for Ventoy2Disk.exe and -s option for Ventoy2Disk.sh The only way to prevent misuse when booting from USB is to set a BIOS password (and perhaps a boot password), set the BIOS to not boot from USB and it won't hurt to also use an encrypted filesystem for the OS on the hard disk (bitlocker/LUKS). You can install Ventoy to USB drive, Removable HD, SD Card, SATA HDD, SSD, NVMe . @pbatard puedes poner cualquier imagen en 32 o 64 bits Sorry for my ignorance. Unable to boot properly. The current release of Slax (slax-64bit-11.2.1.iso) fails to boot using UEFI64 using ventoy with the error message: Then your life is simplified to Persistence management while each of the 2 (Ventoy or SG2D) provide the ability to boot Windows if it is installed on any local . Maybe I can get Ventoy's grub signed with MS key. The BIOS decides to boot Ventoy in Legacy BIOS mode or in UEFI mode. Attached Files Thumbnail (s) Find Reply Steve2926 Senior Member
Some questions about using KLV-Airedale - Page 4 - Puppy Linux privacy statement. But when I try to boot it with ventoy it does not boot and says the message "No bootfile found for UEFI". So, Fedora has shim that loads only Fedoras files. DSAService.exe (Intel Driver & Support Assistant). Will polish and publish the code later. I have absolutely no problem with letting the user choose if they want to run a bootloader that failed Secure Boot validation, and I think this might be the better way to do it indeed. This option is enabled by default since 1.0.76. your point) and you also want them to actually do their designated job, including letting you know, if you have Secure Boot enabled, when some third party UEFI boot loader didn't pass Secure Boot validation, even if that boot loader will only ever be run from someone who has to have physical access to your computer in the first place. The file size will be over 5 GB. Some Legacy BIOS has an access limitation and wont read a disk that exceeds the limitation. Some commands in Ventoy grub can modify the contents of the ISO and must be disabled for users to use on their own under secure boot. () no boot file found for uefi. if it's possible please add UEFI support for this great distro. The point of this issue is that people are under the impression that because Ventoy supports Secure Boot, they will get the same level of "security" booting Secure Boot compliant media through Ventoy as if they had booted that same media directly, which is indeed a fair expectation to have, since the whole point of boot media creation software is to have the converted media behave as close as possible as the original would. downloaded from: http://old-dos.ru/dl.php?id=15030. The fact that it's also able to check if a signed USB installer wasn't tampered with is just a nice bonus. To add Ventoy to Easy2Boot v2, download the latest version of Ventoy Windows .ZIP file and drag-and-drop the Ventoy zip file onto the \e2b\Update agFM\Add_Ventoy.cmd file on the 2nd agFM partition. Yes, at this point you have the same exact image as I have. 1.- comprobar que la imagen que tienes sea de 64 bits You can use these commands to format it:
I still don't know why it shouldn't work even if it's complex. I used Rufus on a new USB with the same iso image, and when I booted to it with UEFI it booted successfully. Sign in TPM encryption has historically been independent of Secure Boot. Yes. Personally, I don't have much of an issue with Ventoy using the current approach as a stopgap solution, as long as it is agreed that this is only a stopgap, since it comes with a huge drawback, and that a better solution (validation of that the UEFI bootloaders chain loaded from GRUB pass Secure Boot validation when Secure Boot has been enabled by the user) needs to be implemented in the long run. But, just like GRUB, I assert that this matter needs to be treated as a bug that warrants fixing, which is the reason I created this issue in the first place. Reply. Does the iso boot from s VM as a virtual DVD? Optional custom shim protocol registration (not included in this build, creates issues). @shasheene of Rescuezilla knows about the problem and they are investigating. Guid For Ventoy With Secure Boot in UEFI my pleasure and gladly happen :) Maybe the image does not support x64 uefi . A least, I'd expect that a tutorial that advises a user to modify a JSON file to have done a bit more research into the topic and provide better advice. No bootfile found for UEFI! Asks for full pathname of shell. As Ventoy itself is not signed with Microsoft key, it uses Shim from Fedora (or, more precisely, from Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk).
About Secure Boot in UEFI mode - Ventoy Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso: Works fine, all hard drive can be properly detected. Joined Jul 18, 2020 Messages 4 Trophies 0 . Ventoy is able to chain boot Windows 10 (build 2004) just fine on the same systems. For me I'm missing Hiren's Boot CD (https://www.hirensbootcd.org/) - it's WindowsPE based and supports UEFI from USB. This means current is UEFI mode. ^^ maybe a lenovo / thinkpad / thinkcentre issue ? No bootfile found for UEFI with Ventoy, But OK witth rufus. This same image I boot regularly on VMware UEFI. Preventing malicious programs is not the task of secure boot. Firstly, I run into the MOKManager screen and enroll the testkey-ventoy.der and reboot. I adsime that file-roller is not preserving boot parameters, use another iso creation tool. Error : @FadeMind I was able to create a Rufus image using "GPT for UEFI" and the latest Windows ISO (1709 updated in 12/2017). This option is enabled by default since 1.0.76. "+String(e)+r);return new Intl.NumberFormat('en-US').format(Math.round(569086*a+n))}var rng=document.querySelector("#restoro-downloads");rng.innerHTML=gennr();rng.removeAttribute("id");var restoroDownloadLink=document.querySelector("#restoro-download-link"),restoroDownloadArrow=document.querySelector(".restoro-download-arrow"),restoroCloseArrow=document.querySelector("#close-restoro-download-arrow");if(window.navigator.vendor=="Google Inc."){restoroDownloadLink.addEventListener("click",function(){setTimeout(function(){restoroDownloadArrow.style.display="flex"},500),restoroCloseArrow.addEventListener("click",function(){restoroDownloadArrow.style.display="none"})});}. Then Ventoy will load without issue if the secure boot is enabled in the BIOS.
ventoy maybe the image does not support x64 uefi can u fix now ? Try updating it and see if that fixes the issue. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI" hello everyone Using ventoy, if I try to install the ISO. Freebsd has some linux compatibility and also has proprietary nvidia drivers. So all Ventoy's behavior doesn't change the secure boot policy.